subdirectory_arrow_right Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne (Game)
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In Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne, during Part III: Chapter Three: A Mob War, you can find a hidden dialogue between two Punchinello mobsters while they stand guard by a staircase waiting for intruders:
This line is a reference to an old meme from the 3D Realms forums. The exact origins of this meme are not entirely known, but in a developer Q&A that occurred at an unknown date (either for the first Max Payne game, or in the lead-up to Max Payne 2's announcement at E3 2002 going off of what could be easily found in 3D Realms' forum archives), one fan asked them "What about moving?", a seemingly vague and unnecessary question. This question perplexed the game's fan community and developers, who promised that moving would appear in the final game, and it did. The question subsequently became an early popular meme on the forums, later being referenced in Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne. In a thread on October 8th, six days prior to the game's release, in anticipation for another developer Q&A, the line as it appears in the game appeared to be referenced in a post presumably by a Remedy Entertainment staff member or moderator, who quoted the first two lines in the dialogue.
Vegas: "What about moving?"
Unnamed Punchinello mobster: "What about it? Put one foot in front of the other."
Vegas: "No, I mean, what about you moving out, leaving her?"
Unnamed Punchinello mobster: "That's the trouble, you can't choose who you go crazy about."
Vegas: "True, but what you can choose is what you do about it, you know? Kiss them or kill them."
Unnamed Punchinello mobster: "Yeah, I guess you're right. Hey, thanks, Vegas."
Vegas: "Hey, don't get soft on me. You stay here, I'm gonna check upstairs."
Unnamed Punchinello mobster: "Okay. Hey, but Vegas, I really mean it, thanks."
Vegas: "Forget about it already."
Unnamed Punchinello mobster: "What about it? Put one foot in front of the other."
Vegas: "No, I mean, what about you moving out, leaving her?"
Unnamed Punchinello mobster: "That's the trouble, you can't choose who you go crazy about."
Vegas: "True, but what you can choose is what you do about it, you know? Kiss them or kill them."
Unnamed Punchinello mobster: "Yeah, I guess you're right. Hey, thanks, Vegas."
Vegas: "Hey, don't get soft on me. You stay here, I'm gonna check upstairs."
Unnamed Punchinello mobster: "Okay. Hey, but Vegas, I really mean it, thanks."
Vegas: "Forget about it already."
This line is a reference to an old meme from the 3D Realms forums. The exact origins of this meme are not entirely known, but in a developer Q&A that occurred at an unknown date (either for the first Max Payne game, or in the lead-up to Max Payne 2's announcement at E3 2002 going off of what could be easily found in 3D Realms' forum archives), one fan asked them "What about moving?", a seemingly vague and unnecessary question. This question perplexed the game's fan community and developers, who promised that moving would appear in the final game, and it did. The question subsequently became an early popular meme on the forums, later being referenced in Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne. In a thread on October 8th, six days prior to the game's release, in anticipation for another developer Q&A, the line as it appears in the game appeared to be referenced in a post presumably by a Remedy Entertainment staff member or moderator, who quoted the first two lines in the dialogue.
Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne - What About Moving? line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fVFeuyrVUY
Max Payne 2 announcement thread containing developer Q&A reference:
https://forums.3drealms.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-341.html
Reference to the Easter egg version of the line days before Max Payne 2's release:
https://forums.3drealms.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-6002.html
Favorite quotes thread in which this Easter egg is mentioned:
https://forums.3drealms.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-7045.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fVFeuyrVUY
Max Payne 2 announcement thread containing developer Q&A reference:
https://forums.3drealms.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-341.html
Reference to the Easter egg version of the line days before Max Payne 2's release:
https://forums.3drealms.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-6002.html
Favorite quotes thread in which this Easter egg is mentioned:
https://forums.3drealms.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-7045.html
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In Part I: The American Dream - Chapter Two: Live From The Crime Scene, if the player throws a grenade into the big gap on the wall at the beginning of the level, the objectives will then say "I had declared a war against rats". The rats ahead will use their deagles to kill the player.
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Due to lacking the sufficient budget needed to hire actors, the staff, interns and associates of Remedy Entertainment ended up lending themselves to the likenesses of many of the game's characters. Most notably creative director Sam Lake provided the face model for Max Payne, and many of his relatives ended up being part of the game's cast, including his parents who posed in multiple shots as Nicole Horne and Alfred Woden.
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In Part II: A Cold Day in Hell - Chapter Five: Angel of Death, Max can interact with a piano to play part of his theme, but shooting the lid prop renders the piano unplayable.
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